1 00:00:05,190 --> 00:00:04,390 [Music] 2 00:00:08,629 --> 00:00:05,200 the oldest 3 00:00:10,790 --> 00:00:08,639 and strongest human emotion is fear 4 00:00:11,749 --> 00:00:10,800 and the oldest and strongest type of 5 00:00:14,950 --> 00:00:11,759 fear 6 00:00:17,430 --> 00:00:14,960 is trepidation of the unknown 7 00:00:20,870 --> 00:00:17,440 when we were children our parents told 8 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:20,880 us that monsters didn't exist 9 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:23,359 but we were sure that something was 10 00:00:31,109 --> 00:00:26,560 lurking under the bed or in the closet 11 00:00:34,310 --> 00:00:31,119 fear sees even if our eyes are closed 12 00:00:36,310 --> 00:00:34,320 welcome to the realm of the arcane my 13 00:00:38,709 --> 00:00:36,320 name is lon strickler 14 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:38,719 join me as i examine unexplained 15 00:00:42,830 --> 00:00:39,840 creatures 16 00:00:44,790 --> 00:00:42,840 strange manifestations and remarkable 17 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:44,800 realities 18 00:00:50,470 --> 00:00:47,840 imagine this next hour as a voyage of 19 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:50,480 discovery to strange lands 20 00:00:56,229 --> 00:00:53,520 seeking not for new territory but for 21 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:56,239 new knowledge of the supernatural come 22 00:01:00,230 --> 00:00:58,800 on board as we begin this adventure 23 00:01:04,789 --> 00:01:00,240 together 24 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:06,870 hey folks good evening and welcome to 25 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:08,880 another episode of arcane radio where we 26 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:11,360 explore the unexplained live 27 00:01:17,109 --> 00:01:14,960 on beyond explanation i'm your host lon 28 00:01:17,830 --> 00:01:17,119 strickler coming to you within a cannon 29 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:17,840 shot 30 00:01:23,030 --> 00:01:21,040 of historic gettysburg pennsylvania 31 00:01:24,070 --> 00:01:23,040 now before i get started i want to again 32 00:01:26,070 --> 00:01:24,080 ask you a favor 33 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welcome 49 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:06,880 expanded press perspective 50 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:09,280 paranormal supernatural podcasts kyle 51 00:02:13,270 --> 00:02:10,000 filson 52 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:13,280 and cam hale to hurricane right now 53 00:02:16,470 --> 00:02:15,120 expanded perspectives represents 54 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:16,480 individuals 55 00:02:21,430 --> 00:02:19,440 inclined to form one's own opinions 56 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:21,440 rather than depend upon academics or 57 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:22,800 authorities 58 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:25,599 especially about ancient rituals 59 00:02:30,350 --> 00:02:27,200 cultures 60 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:30,360 conspiracy theories science 61 00:02:36,949 --> 00:02:34,480 cryptozoology social religious issues 62 00:02:39,190 --> 00:02:36,959 our open-minded views allow us to 63 00:02:41,350 --> 00:02:39,200 consider all possibilities regardless of 64 00:02:43,589 --> 00:02:41,360 how strange are unusual 65 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:43,599 come with us as we explore the many 66 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:44,879 stories 67 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:47,040 studies and topics through podcast 68 00:02:51,430 --> 00:02:48,080 interviews books 69 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:51,440 blogs and news magazine articles now cal 70 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:52,720 filson 71 00:02:57,190 --> 00:02:55,120 is a native texan growing up in rural 72 00:02:58,550 --> 00:02:57,200 texas in a small town outside of dallas 73 00:03:01,110 --> 00:02:58,560 fort worth 74 00:03:03,589 --> 00:03:01,120 uh kyle spent a lot of time in the woods 75 00:03:05,670 --> 00:03:03,599 hunting fishing and camping 76 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:05,680 his early interest in the paranormal was 77 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:08,720 first sparked by his father and uncles 78 00:03:12,869 --> 00:03:11,200 kyle became fascinated by ufo's bigfoot 79 00:03:16,390 --> 00:03:12,879 time slips and paranormal 80 00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:16,400 universes kyle currently lives in texas 81 00:03:21,430 --> 00:03:18,959 with his wife and three sons 82 00:03:23,190 --> 00:03:21,440 and cam hale was born and raised in 83 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:23,200 texas as well 84 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:25,840 and comes from a long family heritage of 85 00:03:30,149 --> 00:03:27,840 texans that could trace back 86 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:30,159 to before the lone star state gained its 87 00:03:33,670 --> 00:03:31,360 independence 88 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:33,680 growing up in a rural country town he 89 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:36,159 spent the majority of his time outdoors 90 00:03:40,229 --> 00:03:38,000 his fascination with the strange and 91 00:03:42,229 --> 00:03:40,239 unusual starting in his youth 92 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:42,239 diving deeper into these subjects at his 93 00:03:48,149 --> 00:03:45,120 local library only fueled the flames 94 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:48,159 that led him to where he is today 95 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:50,239 uh for more information you can visit 96 00:03:56,630 --> 00:03:54,480 the website at expandedperspectives.com 97 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:56,640 so guys thanks for joining me this 98 00:03:59,509 --> 00:03:57,760 evening 99 00:04:01,350 --> 00:03:59,519 denver glad to be here thanks for having 100 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:01,360 us on yeah thanks for inviting us 101 00:04:04,550 --> 00:04:03,120 yeah it's been a while we haven't talked 102 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:04,560 for a long time you know i 103 00:04:08,949 --> 00:04:07,200 you guys advertised on my website and 104 00:04:11,110 --> 00:04:08,959 you just sent me at each other 105 00:04:12,229 --> 00:04:11,120 but we just hadn't got the talk that's 106 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:12,239 it i mean yeah 107 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:16,560 and uh you know i had been on your shirt 108 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:18,239 maybe three years or so and i you've 109 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:19,600 never been on with me 110 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:22,560 so it was time to do it i guess good 111 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:23,360 time as any 112 00:04:27,670 --> 00:04:25,919 yeah we're looking forward to it so just 113 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:27,680 let me ask you first of all how did you 114 00:04:31,350 --> 00:04:29,040 guys get into 115 00:04:33,270 --> 00:04:31,360 doing the podcast and and when did you 116 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:33,280 start this 117 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:36,320 well it started way back um i'm gonna we 118 00:04:41,110 --> 00:04:37,919 started the podcast in 119 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:41,120 september of 2013 120 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:43,919 but our idea of doing a podcast probably 121 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:45,120 was a full year 122 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:47,440 ahead of that and then we started 123 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:49,199 listening to podcast even earlier than 124 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:50,400 that so 125 00:04:53,909 --> 00:04:52,320 i'm an independent contractor i work for 126 00:04:56,390 --> 00:04:53,919 myself so i'm in my vehicle 127 00:04:57,110 --> 00:04:56,400 all day every day a lot of time on the 128 00:04:58,550 --> 00:04:57,120 road 129 00:05:01,110 --> 00:04:58,560 and cam when he worked for the 130 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:01,120 municipality here in our small town 131 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:04,400 he was often by himself for entire days 132 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:05,520 too by himself 133 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:07,280 well you know you listen to the the 134 00:05:11,189 --> 00:05:09,280 classic radio stations or the 135 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:11,199 the the pop stations and they play the 136 00:05:14,870 --> 00:05:12,720 same songs 137 00:05:16,469 --> 00:05:14,880 over and over and over on loops or if 138 00:05:17,110 --> 00:05:16,479 you're listening to classic rock like i 139 00:05:19,270 --> 00:05:17,120 like 140 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:19,280 um you're familiar with all the songs i 141 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:21,840 mean you can listen to it so much 142 00:05:25,830 --> 00:05:24,720 and sports radio it's always just the 143 00:05:27,189 --> 00:05:25,840 local sports guys 144 00:05:29,110 --> 00:05:27,199 you know bitching and complaining about 145 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:29,120 the teams like why they were been doing 146 00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:29,600 good 147 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:31,199 you can only listen to that for so long 148 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:33,360 before that becomes boring so 149 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:34,960 me and cam have been lifelong friends 150 00:05:37,990 --> 00:05:36,800 since we were like in middle school 151 00:05:39,749 --> 00:05:38,000 and we would talk to each other on the 152 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:39,759 phone and stuff and cam actually 153 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:42,240 introduced me to a podcast 154 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:44,800 uh first this must have been like 2010 155 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:46,160 2009. 156 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:49,440 i remember because i had an ipod shuffle 157 00:05:53,189 --> 00:05:51,199 but it was the old one the ones that 158 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:53,199 didn't even have a screen on it it 159 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:54,240 looked like 160 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:58,160 thinner and you would have to go on 161 00:06:00,710 --> 00:05:59,120 itunes 162 00:06:02,390 --> 00:06:00,720 you would have to find a podcast you 163 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:02,400 would have to download it on itunes and 164 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:03,759 then put it on there it's basically like 165 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:05,680 a big flash drive 166 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:08,639 and then listen to it and i remember he 167 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:10,000 found a couple shows i don't remember 168 00:06:12,309 --> 00:06:11,280 which ones and back then you got to 169 00:06:14,629 --> 00:06:12,319 remember 170 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:14,639 that the quality of podcast wasn't very 171 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:15,680 good like 172 00:06:20,230 --> 00:06:18,000 literally it was like a a secret if you 173 00:06:23,029 --> 00:06:20,240 could figure out even how to do it but 174 00:06:24,469 --> 00:06:23,039 i remember we would listen to podcasts 175 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:24,479 we would listen to the same episode and 176 00:06:27,189 --> 00:06:26,000 then we would call each other 177 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:27,199 and like what do you think of that what 178 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:29,520 do you think of that crazy story 179 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:31,440 and you know podcast became more and 180 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:32,880 more popular over time and then i 181 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:34,240 remember it was around 182 00:06:39,189 --> 00:06:37,840 20 12 20 2011. 183 00:06:40,629 --> 00:06:39,199 we were sitting around talking about an 184 00:06:41,830 --> 00:06:40,639 episode that we heard on whatever show 185 00:06:43,189 --> 00:06:41,840 it was 186 00:06:44,230 --> 00:06:43,199 and we were like well i wish they would 187 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:44,240 i wish they would have done it this way 188 00:06:47,029 --> 00:06:45,520 i wish they would have asked the guest 189 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:47,039 this or i wish they would have went this 190 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:48,000 direction 191 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:49,360 and i remember just just kind of 192 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:50,880 nonchalantly just like you think we 193 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:52,639 could do one something like that and 194 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,880 we were like i don't i don't know i 195 00:06:57,749 --> 00:06:56,400 don't even know how to get started now 196 00:06:58,710 --> 00:06:57,759 this was also a time where if you went 197 00:06:59,990 --> 00:06:58,720 on youtube 198 00:07:01,990 --> 00:07:00,000 there wasn't a lot of videos telling 199 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:02,000 people how to do it there were no books 200 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:04,400 out telling you how to podcast so 201 00:07:09,189 --> 00:07:07,360 what we did is we started looking at 202 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:09,199 blogs and things like that and watching 203 00:07:11,909 --> 00:07:10,800 people that had successful shows of 204 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:11,919 course at that time they weren't very 205 00:07:14,790 --> 00:07:13,360 successful 206 00:07:16,629 --> 00:07:14,800 seeing what they were using like oh 207 00:07:18,309 --> 00:07:16,639 they're using that kind of microphone i 208 00:07:20,629 --> 00:07:18,319 wonder why like i wonder 209 00:07:21,990 --> 00:07:20,639 and i remember going to a couple guitar 210 00:07:23,350 --> 00:07:22,000 shops 211 00:07:24,790 --> 00:07:23,360 and the people they would be like what 212 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:24,800 are you doing with it they had they had 213 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:26,080 no idea 214 00:07:29,589 --> 00:07:28,560 and even like parents and friends we 215 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:29,599 would have to tell them 216 00:07:33,029 --> 00:07:31,120 instead of podcast you would say it's 217 00:07:34,950 --> 00:07:33,039 like an internet radio show 218 00:07:36,390 --> 00:07:34,960 because they didn't it wasn't familiar 219 00:07:37,990 --> 00:07:36,400 what that was nowadays everybody knows 220 00:07:39,430 --> 00:07:38,000 what a podcast is 221 00:07:41,350 --> 00:07:39,440 you can't watch tv for more than 10 222 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:41,360 minutes without 223 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:42,880 you know hearing an advertisement for a 224 00:07:46,869 --> 00:07:44,400 podcast but anyways 225 00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:46,879 so we began purchasing gear and then 226 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:48,319 after we had what we think that we 227 00:07:51,749 --> 00:07:48,800 needed 228 00:07:53,830 --> 00:07:51,759 uh we sat down and tried it now i 229 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:53,840 remember 230 00:07:57,909 --> 00:07:56,400 just getting accepted onto itunes was 231 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:57,919 like a big achievement for us i remember 232 00:07:59,350 --> 00:07:58,240 we were 233 00:08:01,510 --> 00:07:59,360 i didn't realize that i mean they'll 234 00:08:02,550 --> 00:08:01,520 pretty much approve anyone but at the 235 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:02,560 time we felt like it was a great 236 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:04,720 achievement and we were like 237 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:06,800 well this is probably only going to last 238 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:08,319 a couple months but 239 00:08:11,830 --> 00:08:09,759 let's give it a shot and i remember 240 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:11,840 setting like a goal where if we could 241 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:13,280 get 242 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:15,440 300 subscribers the first year that 243 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:17,759 would be incredible 244 00:08:23,749 --> 00:08:20,879 and so we started and 245 00:08:25,270 --> 00:08:23,759 for whatever reason uh very quickly i 246 00:08:26,710 --> 00:08:25,280 mean only like in a couple weeks we 247 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:26,720 already had three thousand people 248 00:08:29,350 --> 00:08:28,000 following us 249 00:08:31,270 --> 00:08:29,360 and started reaching out to people so 250 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:31,280 that was one thing is we thought it 251 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:32,800 would be hard to get guests on 252 00:08:36,469 --> 00:08:35,120 like authors of books and other shows 253 00:08:37,990 --> 00:08:36,479 and in those days that might be harder 254 00:08:38,550 --> 00:08:38,000 now but back in those days most people 255 00:08:40,790 --> 00:08:38,560 were 256 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:40,800 more than willing to come on and so we 257 00:08:44,949 --> 00:08:42,880 started having guests on 258 00:08:46,550 --> 00:08:44,959 people heard us that were also podcast 259 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:46,560 hosts they would invite us to come on 260 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:49,040 their show much like you're doing today 261 00:08:53,190 --> 00:08:51,760 and then word of mouth it just started 262 00:08:56,150 --> 00:08:53,200 growing and growing and growing and of 263 00:08:57,750 --> 00:08:56,160 course the popularity of podcast 264 00:08:59,190 --> 00:08:57,760 i mean it is what it is today i mean now 265 00:09:01,350 --> 00:08:59,200 there's millions of them 266 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:01,360 but that's how we got started is really 267 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:02,880 we had a lifelong interest in the 268 00:09:05,829 --> 00:09:04,320 paranormal 269 00:09:08,790 --> 00:09:05,839 and it was something that we decided to 270 00:09:10,389 --> 00:09:08,800 try as a hobby and it just took off i 271 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:10,399 mean i still have a full-time job it 272 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:12,320 still is a hobby for me 273 00:09:15,910 --> 00:09:14,640 cam had a full-time job until just the 274 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:15,920 last couple months 275 00:09:19,829 --> 00:09:18,560 and now he podcasts full-time but it's 276 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:19,839 been a slow process 277 00:09:24,949 --> 00:09:22,959 but i mean i still to this day 278 00:09:25,990 --> 00:09:24,959 i get super excited about doing it i 279 00:09:28,630 --> 00:09:26,000 look forward to do it 280 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:28,640 doing it and the the best thing now 281 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:29,279 according to 282 00:09:31,990 --> 00:09:30,480 when we first started it would have to 283 00:09:32,550 --> 00:09:32,000 get all the information from books and 284 00:09:33,829 --> 00:09:32,560 stuff like that 285 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:33,839 the best thing now is once we have an 286 00:09:38,389 --> 00:09:36,080 audience is the listeners 287 00:09:40,630 --> 00:09:38,399 they email us incredible stories much 288 00:09:42,949 --> 00:09:40,640 like you get on phantoms and monsters 289 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:42,959 so every day i wake up all i have to do 290 00:09:47,750 --> 00:09:44,560 is check the inbox and they'll be 291 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:47,760 really crazy interesting unexplainable 292 00:09:53,030 --> 00:09:49,600 stories that people are having 293 00:09:56,230 --> 00:09:53,040 and feel like sharing so i mean 294 00:09:59,590 --> 00:09:56,240 it's it's a really cool thing 295 00:10:00,470 --> 00:09:59,600 well you know uh actually and i didn't 296 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:00,480 realize until 297 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:03,760 later today i uh 298 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:05,680 i'm at the 10th anniversary now of 299 00:10:10,870 --> 00:10:07,600 actually doing 300 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:10,880 you know radio you know internet radio 301 00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:12,800 and uh i remember the first time i did 302 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:15,360 it because i was on with uh 303 00:10:22,870 --> 00:10:18,880 on uh beyond the edge with uh 304 00:10:24,310 --> 00:10:22,880 eric and and sean and i thought oh god 305 00:10:26,069 --> 00:10:24,320 what am i going to do is i don't want to 306 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:26,079 do this but they talked me into doing it 307 00:10:29,509 --> 00:10:26,800 and then 308 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:29,519 you know it just stuck you know i've 309 00:10:33,829 --> 00:10:31,120 been on several different shows 310 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:33,839 we've had different shows and you know 311 00:10:37,990 --> 00:10:34,240 so 312 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:38,000 um it gets you to blood i guess 313 00:10:41,110 --> 00:10:40,320 i i guess i actually only i explained 314 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:41,120 but god 315 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:43,120 it's hard to believe it's been 10 years 316 00:10:46,710 --> 00:10:44,720 now for me 317 00:10:47,829 --> 00:10:46,720 so it goes back quick it goes by quick 318 00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:47,839 yeah we are 319 00:10:51,430 --> 00:10:50,000 hurting it's going to be eight years in 320 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:51,440 just a couple months yeah we've been 321 00:10:55,110 --> 00:10:52,000 doing it so 322 00:10:58,790 --> 00:10:55,120 i believe it's been almost a decade wow 323 00:11:02,949 --> 00:10:58,800 well i tell you what you know you guys 324 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:02,959 you started looking into some a specific 325 00:11:08,550 --> 00:11:06,240 phenomena that i i had heard about 326 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:08,560 but i wasn't really familiar with it 327 00:11:13,430 --> 00:11:10,880 until i started getting 328 00:11:14,389 --> 00:11:13,440 getting uh information from you and from 329 00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:14,399 your podcast 330 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:17,519 and this is the glimmer man phenomena 331 00:11:23,670 --> 00:11:21,040 now the weird thing about it is 332 00:11:25,350 --> 00:11:23,680 every every everybody started saying 333 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:25,360 it's something 334 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:27,680 related to what the alien creature 335 00:11:31,269 --> 00:11:28,560 looked like in 336 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:31,279 you know in the predator movies that's 337 00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:32,000 right 338 00:11:37,509 --> 00:11:35,279 quite frankly when i first started 339 00:11:39,910 --> 00:11:37,519 hearing that i couldn't believe it 340 00:11:40,710 --> 00:11:39,920 you know i i was just uh you know what 341 00:11:42,630 --> 00:11:40,720 what the hell's 342 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:42,640 people talking about but man it really 343 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:44,880 started picking up and 344 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:47,360 and i know you guys have had a lot of a 345 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:48,320 lot of reports 346 00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:51,600 man i've had several reports come in and 347 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:52,160 uh 348 00:11:58,150 --> 00:11:55,600 and in fact we had a photograph taken 349 00:12:00,389 --> 00:11:58,160 back in december one of my investigators 350 00:12:03,509 --> 00:12:00,399 ryan fusco 351 00:12:05,190 --> 00:12:03,519 was out in comanche county oklahoma 352 00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:05,200 doing an investigation 353 00:12:09,190 --> 00:12:07,279 and he caught a photograph of one of 354 00:12:12,310 --> 00:12:09,200 these things 355 00:12:13,750 --> 00:12:12,320 uh it it it's it's the damage thing i'll 356 00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:13,760 be honest with you it's probably the 357 00:12:17,990 --> 00:12:16,079 best one i've ever seen 358 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:18,000 uh yeah i agree the only thing that's 359 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:19,360 missing is glowing green eyes and it 360 00:12:21,509 --> 00:12:20,639 would look just like the one in the 361 00:12:25,350 --> 00:12:21,519 movie 362 00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:25,360 yeah yeah and you know it's weird i mean 363 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:26,160 because he wasn't 364 00:12:31,990 --> 00:12:29,200 really trying to get a photograph he he 365 00:12:32,949 --> 00:12:32,000 he told me that he was um he was just 366 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:32,959 clicking 367 00:12:36,550 --> 00:12:35,360 digital photos all over the place and 368 00:12:38,629 --> 00:12:36,560 when he was looking 369 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:38,639 at the photos eventually he saw this 370 00:12:43,990 --> 00:12:40,320 thing up there 371 00:12:45,430 --> 00:12:44,000 so it's weird i mean but 372 00:12:47,190 --> 00:12:45,440 you know we're trying we've been trying 373 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:47,200 to figure out and i've been trying to 374 00:12:50,790 --> 00:12:49,040 figure out and i know you guys have what 375 00:12:53,030 --> 00:12:50,800 these things really are 376 00:12:54,629 --> 00:12:53,040 are they some type of cloaking like the 377 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:54,639 predator movie 378 00:12:58,710 --> 00:12:57,120 uh i've had people say well it might be 379 00:13:01,829 --> 00:12:58,720 a bigfoot 380 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:01,839 that's cloaking itself and and like cam 381 00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:03,760 it's told me earlier well that makes 382 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:05,200 sense in a way 383 00:13:09,750 --> 00:13:07,920 because you know these things seem to 384 00:13:11,990 --> 00:13:09,760 disappear how many people and we don't 385 00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:12,000 know where they go to 386 00:13:17,269 --> 00:13:15,440 snap their finger they just they're gone 387 00:13:19,509 --> 00:13:17,279 yeah and uh i mean what are your 388 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:19,519 thoughts overall on that 389 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:23,040 uh if if this 390 00:13:27,269 --> 00:13:26,000 is something that's related to let's 391 00:13:28,949 --> 00:13:27,279 just say bigfoot let's just narrow it 392 00:13:30,470 --> 00:13:28,959 down to big let's not say every cryptid 393 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:30,480 or every unknown creature 394 00:13:37,190 --> 00:13:34,240 that this ability is truly 395 00:13:38,550 --> 00:13:37,200 what it is is bigfoot this has this is 396 00:13:40,629 --> 00:13:38,560 the explanation 397 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:40,639 then that's going to explain everything 398 00:13:43,750 --> 00:13:42,560 as far as not what it is rather but 399 00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:43,760 where they go 400 00:13:47,670 --> 00:13:46,320 how they disappear so fast how one 401 00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:47,680 minute there's nothing there the next 402 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:49,040 minute they're there 403 00:13:53,750 --> 00:13:52,160 uh the only thing it does for me that it 404 00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:53,760 kind of brings in doubt that i believe 405 00:13:56,310 --> 00:13:55,440 is that's what it is is if they had that 406 00:13:58,710 --> 00:13:56,320 ability 407 00:14:00,949 --> 00:13:58,720 i feel like why wouldn't you travel like 408 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:00,959 that all the time during the daylight 409 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:03,600 unless it takes something out of them or 410 00:14:07,509 --> 00:14:05,440 i you know we have no idea 411 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:07,519 but i would think that if it was an easy 412 00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:08,800 ability to do 413 00:14:13,030 --> 00:14:10,959 just like flying a bird would fly all 414 00:14:14,629 --> 00:14:13,040 the time like they do i mean if 415 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:14,639 you're not just walking so it would be 416 00:14:19,910 --> 00:14:17,120 something like that what's very odd 417 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:19,920 about the stories that we've received 418 00:14:21,829 --> 00:14:20,240 and 419 00:14:23,910 --> 00:14:21,839 the things that we've looked into about 420 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:23,920 this is they 421 00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:26,240 i haven't found one where they seem to 422 00:14:30,710 --> 00:14:27,680 hold true 423 00:14:32,870 --> 00:14:30,720 with the same kind of mo 424 00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:32,880 like you'll see some where they seem to 425 00:14:37,030 --> 00:14:33,920 be 426 00:14:38,069 --> 00:14:37,040 almost aggressively toying with the 427 00:14:39,750 --> 00:14:38,079 witnesses 428 00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:39,760 like they are following along and 429 00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:41,440 they're doing it mischievously 430 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:43,440 playing whereas you don't really 431 00:14:46,470 --> 00:14:44,880 necessarily hear that with a lot of 432 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:46,480 bigfoot stories if any 433 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:49,440 is if there is some sort of pursuit or 434 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:50,320 interaction 435 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:52,240 it's almost used to push them away like 436 00:14:55,430 --> 00:14:53,360 i'm uh 437 00:14:57,269 --> 00:14:55,440 like a mama sal like oh sal bear would 438 00:14:58,710 --> 00:14:57,279 do to protect her cubs 439 00:15:01,509 --> 00:14:58,720 but whereas with these with these 440 00:15:03,509 --> 00:15:01,519 glimmer men it almost has a more 441 00:15:04,629 --> 00:15:03,519 it's either a more mischievous feeling 442 00:15:07,189 --> 00:15:04,639 or this or 443 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:07,199 action or it's where they're just simply 444 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:08,320 watching 445 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:11,760 it feels like this is 446 00:15:15,910 --> 00:15:13,279 i can't say completely something 447 00:15:19,829 --> 00:15:15,920 completely different but it just doesn't 448 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:19,839 feel to me this is going to sound silly 449 00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:22,800 bigfoot feels natural like when you talk 450 00:15:27,030 --> 00:15:24,959 to people that have these encounters 451 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:27,040 they feel like they're in tune with 452 00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:29,440 something with nature or they 453 00:15:33,430 --> 00:15:32,160 it's always when you're really in nature 454 00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:33,440 they talk about it all the time when 455 00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:35,120 they talk about face sightings 456 00:15:39,189 --> 00:15:37,040 and people seeing brownie or dwindies or 457 00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:39,199 whatnot is when you're dealing with an 458 00:15:42,949 --> 00:15:42,160 earth element let's say it's when you 459 00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:42,959 get into their 460 00:15:47,110 --> 00:15:45,600 area it almost feels like that we've had 461 00:15:48,550 --> 00:15:47,120 stories where people are i mean 462 00:15:51,509 --> 00:15:48,560 was it one from florida like they're 463 00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:51,519 just they're seeing these glimmer men 464 00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:57,670 large cities a lot of stuff moving like 465 00:16:00,389 --> 00:15:59,440 we have one now that i was going over 466 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:00,399 that we've got a 467 00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:03,279 one that come from a a law officer saw 468 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:03,920 one like 469 00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:06,959 in town saw something that resembled the 470 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:08,560 photo 471 00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:10,880 well it doesn't make sense if it was 472 00:16:13,910 --> 00:16:12,480 like i said unless bigfoot can do it 473 00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:13,920 when they want to and now they're just 474 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:15,920 coming into town to be mischievous 475 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:17,600 but that doesn't seem to be their nature 476 00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:19,680 so this thing feels 477 00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:22,720 almost not nefarious but just something 478 00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:24,079 completely different it's 479 00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:26,079 not like a natural feeling was where i 480 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:27,120 was going with that 481 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:29,360 yeah and there's there's opinions all 482 00:16:32,790 --> 00:16:31,040 over of what it could be 483 00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:32,800 some people think it's nothing more than 484 00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:35,120 military ex you know exploring with some 485 00:16:38,749 --> 00:16:36,320 experimental 486 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:38,759 camouflaging suit to its 487 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:40,560 extraterrestrials to it's just 488 00:16:47,189 --> 00:16:44,240 ghosts to aliens uh 489 00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:47,199 uh parallel dimensions uh people coming 490 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:48,480 back from the future 491 00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:50,320 to observe us and are able to cloak them 492 00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:52,639 so i mean it's the gamut is crazy 493 00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:54,560 nobody seems to know what it is but they 494 00:16:59,030 --> 00:16:56,560 have been seen not just in the woods 495 00:17:00,629 --> 00:16:59,040 they've been seen in cities large cities 496 00:17:01,509 --> 00:17:00,639 and i've even received a couple where 497 00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:01,519 people have seen them 498 00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:05,280 in their house so like cam was talking 499 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:06,160 about what is it 500 00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:08,160 is it faith folk is it like a pukwudgie 501 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:10,000 a trickster something that's playing 502 00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:11,280 with people in the woods 503 00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:14,079 is it more like a spirit or a demon a 504 00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:15,039 gin 505 00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:18,000 uh you know like a shadow being like 506 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:18,799 where does it 507 00:17:22,949 --> 00:17:21,520 fall in the realm of the paranormal or 508 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:22,959 is it truly just human 509 00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:24,720 and somebody's got the technology to do 510 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:26,720 that i i don't know and i 511 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,200 don't think that it's human but i don't 512 00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:31,120 know what it is i remember 513 00:17:34,150 --> 00:17:32,720 we got a pretty interesting sighting i 514 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:34,160 think i sent it to you lana i think you 515 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:35,520 put it on fans and monsters but i don't 516 00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:36,480 remember 517 00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:37,919 of a young girl she was a college 518 00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:39,440 student and i think she was going to the 519 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:41,039 university of florida 520 00:17:44,150 --> 00:17:42,559 and she lived in an apartment with a 521 00:17:45,110 --> 00:17:44,160 roommate like in tallahassee or 522 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:45,120 somewhere 523 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:47,440 and they had a dog and there was a large 524 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:49,200 heavily wooded park 525 00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:50,880 i don't know the name of the park but 526 00:17:54,070 --> 00:17:52,640 she would go there with her dog on walks 527 00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:54,080 and hikes all the time 528 00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:55,679 and on this one particular day she was 529 00:17:57,430 --> 00:17:57,039 out there she noticed there was not many 530 00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:57,440 people 531 00:18:00,870 --> 00:17:59,360 around it was a weekday during the 532 00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:00,880 middle of the day like 11 a.m or 533 00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:02,080 something 534 00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:05,120 and her dog started acting strange was 535 00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:07,120 looking up in the trees she just assumed 536 00:18:10,710 --> 00:18:08,160 it was a squirrel 537 00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:10,720 or a bird or whatever and that's when 538 00:18:17,110 --> 00:18:13,840 she caught a glimpse of the thing 539 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:17,120 when she saw it move she said it looked 540 00:18:20,310 --> 00:18:17,440 like 541 00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:20,320 the cloaked predator from the moody 542 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:21,360 movie predator with arnold 543 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:22,480 schwarzenegger that's what it looked 544 00:18:25,510 --> 00:18:23,840 like it didn't look like the 545 00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:25,520 the creature when it you know reveals 546 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:26,880 itself 547 00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,559 but the cloaking part like she could 548 00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:31,039 distinctly see the outline of whatever 549 00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:32,559 this was 550 00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:35,440 and it gave off off the shimmer or this 551 00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:36,160 glimmer like 552 00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:37,919 you couldn't really focus on whatever it 553 00:18:41,590 --> 00:18:40,320 was and if it stood still 554 00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:41,600 it would really be hard to see but 555 00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:43,440 whenever it moved you could you could 556 00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:44,559 see it 557 00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:47,440 and she said the thing was hiding behind 558 00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:49,200 a tree and it 559 00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:52,799 it kind of noticed her noticing it 560 00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:54,559 which is very common when it comes to 561 00:18:57,909 --> 00:18:56,320 stories with uh 562 00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:57,919 not just sasquatch but faith folk 563 00:19:00,630 --> 00:19:00,000 stories where people have these run-ins 564 00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:00,640 with 565 00:19:04,310 --> 00:19:03,360 uh fairies and stuff and she said when 566 00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:04,320 she would look away 567 00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:05,679 the thing she could catch another 568 00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:07,600 peripheral vision moving 569 00:19:10,710 --> 00:19:08,880 and then when she would try to look at 570 00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:10,720 it it would stop again 571 00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:12,480 it would peak and peer from behind the 572 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:14,960 tree so it knew 573 00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:17,600 that she could see it so that i mean 574 00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:19,120 this is another thing that comes up from 575 00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:20,080 time to time 576 00:19:24,070 --> 00:19:21,360 that normally they're perfectly 577 00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:24,080 invisible you can't see them but somehow 578 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:26,240 their suit or whatever their technology 579 00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:28,160 is is kind of malfunctioning and that's 580 00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:28,640 why 581 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,960 you're able to see the outline and it 582 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,640 kind of freaks them out that you can see 583 00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:34,320 them because it's like oh you're not 584 00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:35,600 you're not supposed to see me but 585 00:19:40,710 --> 00:19:38,160 clearly you you're watching me 586 00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:40,720 and then you know i thought i have had 587 00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:42,559 and you know when this first 588 00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:47,280 started coming out i was thinking maybe 589 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:50,720 that this was kind of a 590 00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:55,200 close or crossover of dimensions or 591 00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:57,760 something thinning out to where you 592 00:20:03,510 --> 00:20:00,320 could see the other side to some degree 593 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:03,520 mm-hmm you know it's kind of out there 594 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:07,120 but you know i'm the ones out there so i 595 00:20:09,669 --> 00:20:07,520 mean 596 00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:09,679 to do this miss one person's theory is 597 00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:12,640 ridiculous we don't know what it is 598 00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:15,520 and it seems like i'm not saying the 599 00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:17,360 sightings are increasing 600 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,760 but people reporting their sightings is 601 00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:21,360 definitely increasing so 602 00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:22,799 yeah from the time we got the first 603 00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:25,039 email it was like a one-off like we 604 00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:26,400 didn't hear we got that one strength 605 00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:26,799 siding 606 00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:28,240 two years later before we got the next 607 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:30,640 one and then when we got the second one 608 00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:32,080 of course every time we would read it on 609 00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,000 the air then we would get like 610 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:36,240 another one and then and now i would say 611 00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:38,720 every year i probably get 612 00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:42,400 seven to ten so it seems like people 613 00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:44,480 are are coming forward they feel more 614 00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:46,159 comfortable because of the popularity of 615 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:47,520 podcasts they hear people sharing their 616 00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:48,320 stories they feel 617 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:51,200 okay with it or they probably saw 618 00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:52,640 something i mean i've had people email 619 00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:54,240 me that they saw it they kind of forgot 620 00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:56,000 about it until they heard it 621 00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,919 and then they were like yeah that's what 622 00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:59,280 i saw like i 623 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:01,520 hear that i hear that a lot you know 624 00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:02,640 people say 625 00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:04,799 well i saw a story you had on the blog 626 00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:06,159 and 627 00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:08,000 that's something that had me i hear that 628 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,280 all the time so 629 00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:11,760 right so i had a young person email me 630 00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:12,720 an encounter 631 00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:14,400 and i was asking them you know questions 632 00:21:19,110 --> 00:21:16,559 like the predator the movie 633 00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:19,120 and because they're they were young they 634 00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:20,240 they weren't even familiar with the 635 00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:22,159 movie they never saw the movie 636 00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:23,679 it was before their time you know that 637 00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:25,200 movie came out in the 80s 638 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:26,320 and i was like trying to explain it so 639 00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:27,520 then they went back and watched it and 640 00:21:31,110 --> 00:21:28,799 they're like that that was exactly what 641 00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:31,120 i saw yeah so how many more people are 642 00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:32,000 out there 643 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,679 that have had a sighting like that and 644 00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:35,520 just are unaware of it so they never 645 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:36,720 come forward i think it happens more 646 00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:37,679 often than you think 647 00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:40,080 or this is the explanation to when 648 00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:41,280 people claim they're doing things and 649 00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:43,520 they feel they're being watched but they 650 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:43,919 can't 651 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:47,280 see anything it could be this 652 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:49,520 well we got a treat here because you 653 00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:50,400 sent 654 00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:53,039 two audio files of uh i guess they were 655 00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:55,360 phone calls that you received 656 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,600 of uh sightings is that what it was or 657 00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:59,280 were they on the air with you 658 00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:01,840 okay well so these two these recordings 659 00:22:03,750 --> 00:22:02,480 here that i 660 00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:03,760 that i gathered up today before the 661 00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:05,039 interview were actually sent to me by 662 00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,880 our friend derek hayes 663 00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:08,240 that somebody had called into theirs but 664 00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:10,559 we have i mean i get them all the time 665 00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:12,559 but these i had ready prepared edited so 666 00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:14,000 i just forwarded them to you 667 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,840 but yeah these were people that had had 668 00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:17,280 these experiences 669 00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:20,000 called in and left the voicemail well 670 00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:21,200 we're going to bring them up here so 671 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:23,039 bill if you want to put them up we can 672 00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:27,360 listen to them daniel velasquez 673 00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:31,039 um i live in federal way washington 674 00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:33,840 and i wanted to call and report an 675 00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:35,120 experience 676 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:39,600 that i had last august 2018. 677 00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:41,760 um and from what i've been reading and 678 00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:42,720 hearing another 679 00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:45,840 podcast it can be compared to 680 00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,840 what's been called the the glimmering 681 00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:49,600 man 682 00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:52,110 because that's exactly what 683 00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:53,200 [Music] 684 00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:56,559 i have experienced i i work in 685 00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:57,679 construction 686 00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:00,720 and landscaping and 687 00:23:04,230 --> 00:23:03,679 what happened was one day we were 688 00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:04,240 working 689 00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:07,679 in seattle and we were just getting off 690 00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:09,200 of the interstate 691 00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:11,840 interstate 5 which uh if you're not 692 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:13,360 familiar with 693 00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:16,960 interstate 5 is the main vein between 694 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:21,039 canada all the way down to mexico and 695 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:24,240 we were near seattle getting off of the 696 00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:25,200 exit 697 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:27,679 in our in our vehicle it wasn't the city 698 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:29,760 proper we were probably 699 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:32,960 oh five miles uh we were still in the 700 00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:35,200 seattle itself but uh was not 701 00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:38,080 into the downtown district but we were 702 00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:38,799 still 703 00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:42,159 uh technically in seattle 704 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:44,400 so what happened was as we were getting 705 00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:45,440 off 706 00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:48,840 of the freeway i was sitting in the 707 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:51,919 um in the passenger seat 708 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:54,960 of a vehicle with that also had my boss 709 00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:57,279 who was driving the vehicle 710 00:24:01,269 --> 00:24:00,000 and we had another gentleman sitting in 711 00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:01,279 the back seat 712 00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:03,039 and i was just kind of leaning back this 713 00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:05,600 was a like i said it was in august 714 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:09,200 it was a really hot day out 715 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:12,480 i would say would probably be around 716 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:15,520 between 12 to 3 o'clock in the afternoon 717 00:24:23,510 --> 00:24:19,120 it was a nice warm day nice and sunny 718 00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:23,520 and as we were pulling off of the exit 719 00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:25,840 uh i was just leaning back in the chair 720 00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:27,520 to have the window down getting you know 721 00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:29,200 some fresh air 722 00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:32,640 and that's when i saw this 723 00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:35,760 this figure it was like a like i've been 724 00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:37,039 hearing it's been like 725 00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,640 exactly what it was as a like a 726 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:40,240 pixelated figure 727 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:43,840 of a of a person walking 728 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:46,720 it was exactly like the if you've seen 729 00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:47,760 the old uh 730 00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:51,279 the terminator shows the movies 731 00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:54,000 it was exactly like that 100 percent 732 00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:55,360 like that 733 00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:57,919 not as the alien form but you know when 734 00:25:01,669 --> 00:25:00,159 he turns invisible when he has like this 735 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:01,679 cloak on him 736 00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:06,480 where you can see uh like 737 00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:08,000 it's hard to explain except for saying 738 00:25:13,029 --> 00:25:09,679 it's exactly like what you see 739 00:25:16,470 --> 00:25:13,039 on the movie and 740 00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:16,480 i seen this form walking 741 00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:20,799 uh to its right um 742 00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,640 and as we were getting up the freeway 743 00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:24,240 and i seen this 744 00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:27,760 this pixelated figure of a human 745 00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:31,039 walking i leaned up and i said oh my god 746 00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:32,799 did you look at that look at that i told 747 00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:34,080 my boss 748 00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:37,600 and i probably was watching it for about 749 00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,880 four seconds five seconds before my eyes 750 00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:42,480 really registered on what 751 00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:44,960 i was seeing i i sprung up out of my 752 00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:45,840 seat 753 00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:47,600 as we were getting off the freeway i 754 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:49,039 said oh my god look look 755 00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:53,039 look at that and my boss was looking 756 00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:54,240 over 757 00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:56,960 um he's like well like what and as i 758 00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:58,480 looked at my boss to try to 759 00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:00,960 grab his attention to point him where i 760 00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:03,200 was looking 761 00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:06,000 when i looked back i i had lost the 762 00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:06,559 figure 763 00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:10,159 i i can't say if it disappeared 764 00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:13,600 or if i just lost the um how it had 765 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:14,720 moved 766 00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:17,760 but it was a very short sighting i would 767 00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:20,320 say less than five seconds 768 00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:23,440 but uh in those five seconds where the 769 00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:26,480 the absolute strangest thing that i've 770 00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:27,520 ever experienced 771 00:26:35,130 --> 00:26:32,559 any 772 00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:35,140 paranormal phenomena 773 00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:36,559 [Music] 774 00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:39,679 no no ghosts no you know aliens 775 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:42,799 i've never experienced anything 776 00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:44,080 and i'm not even sure if this was a 777 00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:46,159 paranormal sighting but whatever it was 778 00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:47,679 it was extremely 779 00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:51,600 strange it was um 780 00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:54,799 very odd to me and this uh 781 00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:57,840 figure you know it was normal shape and 782 00:27:01,269 --> 00:26:59,760 size of a human like i said it was just 783 00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:01,279 walking 784 00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:04,559 and behind the figure um 785 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,960 probably i would say in 20 yards 30 786 00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:09,120 yards there was 787 00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:11,919 probably three or four homeless people 788 00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,480 on the 789 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,799 just you know going about their business 790 00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:16,559 in the road and 791 00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:19,200 um you know they were completely 792 00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:21,120 oblivious from what i can 793 00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:26,070 i go over to the left and i go down this 794 00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:27,360 trail and it's just 795 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:30,080 it's a walking path that's cemented and 796 00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:30,720 it 797 00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:35,919 and comes into this this uh 798 00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:38,720 this pier kind of it's not up here but 799 00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:39,440 it's 800 00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:43,039 like 801 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:46,480 20 feet long uh to the left 802 00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:49,520 there's a waist height there's like um a 803 00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:50,480 display board 804 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:52,960 that runs the length and to the end and 805 00:27:55,269 --> 00:27:53,600 then there's 806 00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:55,279 it runs over in front of you directly 807 00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:56,799 and then it comes back kind of like in a 808 00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:57,840 j-shape and it 809 00:28:02,230 --> 00:27:59,600 it has writing and stuff on it's kind of 810 00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:02,240 explaining what is going on there and as 811 00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:04,080 you're coming into this area there's uh 812 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:07,200 this you know this structure on your 813 00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,840 left side 814 00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,840 um is built into kind of like a rock 815 00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:12,000 wall that's maybe three four feet tall 816 00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,799 right there 817 00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:14,880 that's exposed over you know you can see 818 00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:16,480 kind of over it for just a few feet 819 00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,320 there's like a little landscape area 820 00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:20,399 right there and then some as you're 821 00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:23,039 walking into your left um to this 822 00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:25,520 uh structure so i walked into the 823 00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:26,960 structure and i immediately just kind of 824 00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,279 walked into the back of it i looked out 825 00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:31,440 and i mean at the end of it and i looked 826 00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:32,880 out into the direction where you would 827 00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:34,480 have been looking uh if you were at the 828 00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:36,000 car in the parking lot looking straight 829 00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:37,279 out and it looked plain 830 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:39,679 but it looked different and i can't even 831 00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:40,960 begin to explain 832 00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:43,600 what it looked like because i and my 833 00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,000 brain 834 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:46,799 like didn't accept what i saw i i can't 835 00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:48,240 even explain it better that 836 00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,520 i didn't see what i saw but i i saw 837 00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:53,520 something and was like what the hell and 838 00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:54,880 i looked down 839 00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:57,200 at the um display board in front of me 840 00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:58,240 and it didn't 841 00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,159 make any sense like for what i was 842 00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:02,159 looking at so i was like okay 843 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,840 i turned to my left and i was walking 844 00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:05,440 back to the um 845 00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:06,880 beginning of this display board which 846 00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:08,080 was also back kind of at the beginning 847 00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:10,240 of where this structure had started 848 00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:13,520 and i i got to that spot 849 00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:15,919 so i'm right at kind of the beginning of 850 00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:17,440 this wood structure and to the left of 851 00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,080 me 852 00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:20,640 is this this little landscape area and 853 00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:21,440 that rock 854 00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:23,440 wall that's the natural rock wall uh 855 00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,279 that's that's in this for this landscape 856 00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:27,039 area right there 857 00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:28,640 and you could if i wanted to i could 858 00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:30,159 have climbed over that rock wall kind of 859 00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:31,679 went over the structure and ran out to 860 00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,480 where 861 00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,799 you know down out to the area that i was 862 00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:36,240 looking at like 863 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,919 this wasn't my intention it's just it's 864 00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,360 right there you know 865 00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:41,679 and uh behind uh just a little farther 866 00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:42,720 back about the woods 867 00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:45,200 so you can't really you know it's all uh 868 00:29:48,149 --> 00:29:46,880 green with the trees and whatnot so you 869 00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,159 can't join you just have to go back out 870 00:29:51,750 --> 00:29:49,919 that path back up to the parking lot 871 00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:51,760 uh so just this landscape me standing 872 00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:54,399 there and while i'm standing there 873 00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:57,520 somebody comes over that rock wall and 874 00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:57,919 it 875 00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:01,679 me and they look like they're wearing 876 00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:02,559 like um 877 00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,159 like blue or green uh columbia 878 00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:08,240 like like um reindeer kind of wear you 879 00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:09,200 know what i mean and then 880 00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:10,799 they and like the hoods on or something 881 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:12,880 stuff because i can make out the outline 882 00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:14,880 now this is in my peripheral 883 00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:17,279 so i'm seeing this very quickly somebody 884 00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:19,360 takes like two steps they squat down 885 00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:20,960 just like i would on top of like a 886 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:23,679 structure or the you know a drop 887 00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,880 anywhere you're kind of coming to the 888 00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:26,880 edge of like a loading dock and you're 889 00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:28,399 going to jump off but you don't want to 890 00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:30,320 completely just jump off you kind of 891 00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:32,080 squat down put a hand down 892 00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:34,240 and then just kind of leap down you know 893 00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:35,679 this person did that 894 00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:39,039 and as they were doing this i it scared 895 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:39,360 me 896 00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:42,559 guard so i was like 897 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,279 oh my god you scared me and as i was 898 00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:47,200 saying that i was looking toward them 899 00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:49,840 and i stopped i didn't i didn't get it 900 00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,679 all the way out because 901 00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:53,840 like fear of what i was looking at or 902 00:30:57,590 --> 00:30:54,880 seeing 903 00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:57,600 just completely i mean when you get 904 00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:59,360 goosebumps or goose pimples and all your 905 00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:00,559 hair stands up 906 00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:02,720 that happened times 10. like just 907 00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,000 immediately it felt like 908 00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,799 my skin all over my body was like an 909 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:08,559 inch off my body 910 00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,480 because what i saw i could see through 911 00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:14,799 this person wasn't like a defined person 912 00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,559 like you would see a person 913 00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,880 i could see through them kind of like 914 00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:20,480 like the predator or something in the 915 00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:21,840 movie except 916 00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:25,120 it wasn't the middle part of the person 917 00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:26,399 wasn't like 918 00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:28,399 shaped kind of like you know like a 3d 919 00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:29,679 image you were looking for it was just 920 00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:30,480 kind of 921 00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:33,039 distorted and blurry and it wasn't right 922 00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:34,640 you know and the um 923 00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:37,760 the person when they moved 924 00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:40,720 had an outline that was kind of like 925 00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:41,600 when you see like 926 00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:45,120 one of those nasa um feeds and it's 927 00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:46,799 it's of the earth or whatever and it's 928 00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:48,159 got the sun 929 00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:49,760 or whatever some type of light hitting 930 00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:51,200 the the atmosphere 931 00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:53,919 and it's got that just light thin yellow 932 00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:56,159 line that kind of glows 933 00:31:59,830 --> 00:31:58,000 above the atmosphere this thing had that 934 00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:59,840 it was like that same type of yellow 935 00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:00,799 neon 936 00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,480 just kind of glowing around the very 937 00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:04,240 outside of it when it moved 938 00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:06,240 and when it stopped moving like so this 939 00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:07,600 thing it 940 00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:10,720 this thing this guy this guy draw now 941 00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,159 it was a guy for all of my 942 00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:16,080 life experience this was a person not a 943 00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:19,519 bigfoot not anything crazy this guy was 944 00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:21,600 my build a little taller i'm five five 945 00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:23,200 this guy was about five eight five 946 00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:25,919 nine and kind of just military ability 947 00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:27,120 if that makes sense 948 00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,240 and uh the attire when i think back was 949 00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:32,159 very much just military kind of outline 950 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:32,799 attire 951 00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:36,240 that the kind of um how do you explain 952 00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,360 it like uh 953 00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:38,960 like like a raincoat or something the 954 00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,399 outline is not straight 955 00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:42,000 it's not a straight line for your arm or 956 00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:43,840 whatever if there's like wrinkles in the 957 00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:46,720 fabric or whatever so anyway this guy 958 00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:48,320 dropped he like spotted down 959 00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:50,799 he dropped down and i i turned and said 960 00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:52,880 oh my god uh i'm sorry you scared me you 961 00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:53,919 know what i mean and 962 00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,919 i stopped i didn't get you scared me all 963 00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,440 the way out because the person 964 00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:59,200 when they dropped down they took like a 965 00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:00,720 step forward 966 00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:03,440 then they turned like facing me and put 967 00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:04,880 their arms at their side 968 00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:07,039 and they just stopped moving and when 969 00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:08,640 they stopped moving and like the slower 970 00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:10,399 they went to when they stopped 971 00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:12,159 that outline just kind of it got harder 972 00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:14,399 to see and the distortion between them 973 00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:15,360 kind of cleared like 974 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:17,279 in between the lines like where his body 975 00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:19,200 was kind of cleared up 976 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:22,720 and he just disappeared like he was 977 00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:24,480 gone when he stopped moving i couldn't 978 00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:26,000 see anything 979 00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:29,679 and i i oh my god i freaked out i didn't 980 00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:31,519 jump or scream right now i just 981 00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,559 my heart beat insanely in my chest and 982 00:33:37,909 --> 00:33:36,080 my dog i looked 983 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:37,919 i looked back up this you know the to 984 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,360 the end of the structure where i looked 985 00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:40,880 out originally and um 986 00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:43,279 to see my dog or say something to my dog 987 00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:44,799 like oh what's going on 988 00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,960 and the dog had ran like oh wait he 989 00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:48,720 wasn't there i looked back he was 990 00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:51,440 back up the cement trail that the path 991 00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:52,720 that led out of there with his tail 992 00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:54,640 between his legs and his ear down 993 00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:58,159 hauling and i um i had to 994 00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:00,080 follow him and i just stepped by this 995 00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:01,919 guy now this landscape 996 00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:03,600 was right next to the trail and if this 997 00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:05,360 is an enclosed area so 998 00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:07,760 when to walk down the path to go back 999 00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:08,960 out of here you had to walk 1000 00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,480 right by this person that was standing 1001 00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,839 here and this person was close enough 1002 00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:13,040 that if they wanted to 1003 00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,159 they could have put their arm out like 1004 00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:16,240 leaned out and just grabbed me so it 1005 00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:19,599 it scared me tremendously 1006 00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:22,240 and i ended up yelling uh oh what's 1007 00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:24,000 wrong and i like kind of took a step or 1008 00:34:27,270 --> 00:34:25,679 two and then just broke into a dead 1009 00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:27,280 sprint after the dog 1010 00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,480 i got out of that area back into the um 1011 00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:32,839 parking lot there i didn't even look 1012 00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:41,589 there you go folks 1013 00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:44,079 you know that second account what's 1014 00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:46,399 interesting to me about it 1015 00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,879 that's probably you know after all the 1016 00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:50,480 ones i've heard about and and 1017 00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:52,399 actually read that's probably the 1018 00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:54,399 closest personal 1019 00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:56,320 encounter one of these things i've ever 1020 00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,000 heard of i don't know but 1021 00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:00,320 you guys think the same thing yeah i 1022 00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,400 agree um and see that's the thing with 1023 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,560 each sighting is 1024 00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:06,960 some people feel like it's a person 1025 00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:07,839 other people 1026 00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:09,520 they're like it definitely was not a 1027 00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:11,839 person i don't know what it was 1028 00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:13,520 but i don't i don't know what it was but 1029 00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:16,000 i will say in both of those accounts 1030 00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:17,520 they're very similar in the fact that 1031 00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:19,520 when it's moving you can see it but if 1032 00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:21,280 it stops moving 1033 00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:23,599 he said it in both instances the first 1034 00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,520 guy couldn't find it again 1035 00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:27,520 the other guy said when he cuts when he 1036 00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:28,640 got still 1037 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:31,760 it kind of got clearer like it's the 1038 00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:32,800 outline went away 1039 00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,560 so i'm one so maybe there are you know 1040 00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:38,320 more of these things moving around in 1041 00:35:40,790 --> 00:35:39,920 the daytime you're just not seeing them 1042 00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:40,800 because 1043 00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,480 they're able to blend in perfectly now 1044 00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:44,400 what what it is i have no idea 1045 00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:47,200 is it extraterrestrial ultra dimensional 1046 00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:48,960 is it in fact sasquatch 1047 00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:51,359 is it something else what i enjoy the 1048 00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:52,880 most about those two stories 1049 00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:55,359 are though are where they take place the 1050 00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:56,079 first one 1051 00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:57,280 the fella's talking about the homeless 1052 00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:59,040 people in the city he's there in the 1053 00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,680 city 1054 00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:01,200 on this thing the other one seems like 1055 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:02,880 it is almost like it's at a park 1056 00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:05,359 the second area the second one took 1057 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,800 place in idaho 1058 00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:08,480 and the first one was in seattle i i 1059 00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,960 edited you know the long version out 1060 00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:12,640 for the show but so two different 1061 00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:14,320 settings and they're seeing like you 1062 00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,280 talked about 1063 00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:17,440 you you don't get a whole lot of reports 1064 00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:19,040 of people seeing these things 1065 00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:22,400 as they phase in or as they phase out 1066 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:23,760 like in the second encounter he's 1067 00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,760 talking about it looks like 1068 00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:27,839 a guy climbed over wearing all this but 1069 00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:29,920 he never goes into detail 1070 00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:32,560 of this is what he had on it's just kind 1071 00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:33,839 of like an assumption so 1072 00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:36,160 was it shadows if you see something out 1073 00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:37,440 of the corner of your eye do you assume 1074 00:36:39,349 --> 00:36:38,800 they're wearing a jacket and you turn 1075 00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:39,359 and look 1076 00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,800 they don't have a jacket on it's just 1077 00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:42,640 the way the shadow kind of was as they 1078 00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:43,359 come 1079 00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:45,280 little things like that was it something 1080 00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:48,000 the way this light bending 1081 00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:49,920 equipment that they have works i don't 1082 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,280 know but it's 1083 00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:53,680 the two separate encounters yeah right 1084 00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:55,599 there the two separate encounters in two 1085 00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,040 different areas 1086 00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:59,680 that's i think there's more of it out 1087 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:00,079 there 1088 00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:04,720 few more people have had experiences 1089 00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:07,359 than has ever of course come forward and 1090 00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:08,160 i just feel like 1091 00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,000 there might be more of these out there 1092 00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:12,160 than we even realized yeah um 1093 00:37:16,069 --> 00:37:14,320 i distinctly remember getting an email 1094 00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:16,079 from more than one person that were 1095 00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:17,200 hunters 1096 00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,079 that had strange they observed something 1097 00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:22,240 moving through the trees while hunting 1098 00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:25,520 yeah i've heard the same thing yeah and 1099 00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:27,359 and these are people that are lifelong 1100 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:28,800 outdoorsmen 1101 00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:31,520 these are people that they they would 1102 00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:33,359 know what it was moving through 1103 00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:34,880 the trees or the bushes and it's 1104 00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:36,480 something that they can't explain 1105 00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:39,200 and even they don't they know it's kind 1106 00:37:43,030 --> 00:37:40,480 of crazy when they're telling you like 1107 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:43,040 look i know this sounds crazy 1108 00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:46,800 but i know what i saw for a few seconds 1109 00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:49,040 and it was something i couldn't describe 1110 00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,800 and it's been men women like i mentioned 1111 00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:52,640 the one girl with down there university 1112 00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:54,880 of florida uh i haven't i mean it's 1113 00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:57,680 all types um if you've seen the what is 1114 00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:59,200 it the missing hunters documentary that 1115 00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,359 david politis put out 1116 00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,960 years ago i don't know if you ever saw 1117 00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:05,119 that but at the end there is a siding by 1118 00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:06,880 a woman that's bow hunting 1119 00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:09,680 i think she's in ohio or somewhere and 1120 00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:10,880 she was in her 1121 00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:14,079 tree stand bow hunting and 1122 00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:16,000 she saw it moving through the trees and 1123 00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:17,119 peering at her 1124 00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:19,920 same same kind of description it looks 1125 00:38:24,550 --> 00:38:22,480 the same height as a normal man or woman 1126 00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:24,560 you know five eight six foot three 1127 00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,000 somewhere in that range 1128 00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:28,880 you can see the outline but it's 1129 00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,160 something's going on where it's 1130 00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:32,960 shimmering glimmering 1131 00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:35,440 people can't they can't focus on it and 1132 00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:36,000 i 1133 00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:50,960 there 1134 00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:52,480 well the folks in the chat room were 1135 00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,839 bringing up something we had talked 1136 00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:55,280 about earlier before 1137 00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,480 the show started was that you know this 1138 00:39:03,190 --> 00:39:00,000 predator movie the 1139 00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:03,200 person who did the actual uh 1140 00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:06,880 effects of this cloaking 1141 00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:09,520 uh must have had some type of counter 1142 00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:10,880 hurt encounter 1143 00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:14,320 at some point because it 1144 00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:16,880 it almost matches up exactly with what 1145 00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:18,880 people are saying 1146 00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:21,599 yeah the and i wish i could find it 1147 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:22,800 talked about it before and i 1148 00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,880 it's going to drive me bananas till i 1149 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:25,920 can find it 1150 00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:28,480 but there is a tie like that like the 1151 00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:29,599 fellas and i 1152 00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:31,040 i've talked about it on the show and i 1153 00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,200 can't i'm i'm horrible at this 1154 00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:35,359 but there is a tie that would make it 1155 00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:36,560 seem 1156 00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:40,000 exactly what you're saying like the boy 1157 00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:42,480 as a child may have heard something like 1158 00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,200 this 1159 00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:45,280 or may have been privy to conversations 1160 00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:47,359 his mother and father had or 1161 00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:49,760 you know their whoever their work with 1162 00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,720 and and 1163 00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:52,880 he may have heard some things around the 1164 00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:54,240 table when even when he was supposed to 1165 00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:55,680 be in bed or whatnot 1166 00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:57,760 and this spurred these things on i'd 1167 00:40:01,829 --> 00:40:00,240 like to find if i can find who it is 1168 00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:01,839 i'm for i can remember i would like to 1169 00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:03,839 talk you know to talk to him and ask him 1170 00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:05,440 but then even then would they ever you 1171 00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:06,640 know could they come forward and go oh 1172 00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:07,760 yeah by the way 1173 00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:09,920 i had heard this was a thing too you 1174 00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:14,870 you know i'm gonna i'm gonna look into 1175 00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:16,000 that because i 1176 00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,760 i know some people that work in film and 1177 00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:21,359 i i'm gonna find out if they've ever 1178 00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:26,079 heard anything because uh this um 1179 00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:28,000 you know you hear a you know you see 1180 00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:29,920 things in movies 1181 00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:34,880 and very rarely anything comes close 1182 00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:36,560 in reality to what they see in the 1183 00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:39,040 movies but this for some reason has 1184 00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:40,240 really 1185 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:43,359 showed up so i don't know it's 1186 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:45,760 well yeah unnerving it's a very 1187 00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:46,960 unnerving thing 1188 00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:50,160 i i think for everyone this is the one 1189 00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:51,839 deal that whenever you kind of take it 1190 00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:53,599 from everybody when you get to talk to 1191 00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:55,119 somebody or an interaction with someone 1192 00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,240 that's had 1193 00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:58,800 one of these experiences with like a 1194 00:41:02,550 --> 00:40:59,599 glimmer man 1195 00:41:03,349 --> 00:41:02,560 the most unnerving part of it there you 1196 00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:03,359 go right there 1197 00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,839 that's it so yeah make sure you look 1198 00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:07,680 right up jay allen heineck science yeah 1199 00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:09,200 that's a guy yeah that's the guy you 1200 00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,960 mentioned before uh 1201 00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:12,960 it's one of those things that it seems 1202 00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:15,839 to make people even more uncomfortable 1203 00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:18,480 because of its ability to vanish like 1204 00:41:22,069 --> 00:41:19,680 literally 1205 00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:22,079 i think what is there's a new move i say 1206 00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:23,359 newman it's probably about a year too 1207 00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:24,720 the invisible man 1208 00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:26,560 when they redid it and all that and you 1209 00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:28,880 can see the way it drives the main 1210 00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,079 character she goes 1211 00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:32,480 crazy the way this thing is this 1212 00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:34,079 invisible man's messing with her 1213 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,680 you'd have to assume that 1214 00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:39,440 if they wanted to be nefarious of course 1215 00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:40,720 they could but 1216 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:43,680 just the extra added pressure because 1217 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:44,160 for me 1218 00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:45,680 kyle and i always make this joke on the 1219 00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,839 show it's like you'll never catch me 1220 00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,359 hunting ghosts but you'll you can catch 1221 00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:51,200 me going to look for bigfoot 1222 00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,319 and the reason being is very simple 1223 00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:56,160 i can't tell if a ghost is in my back 1224 00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:57,680 seat when i get ready to go home but i 1225 00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:58,960 can damn sure tell that there's no 1226 00:42:02,150 --> 00:42:00,400 bigfoot back there 1227 00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,160 so when you think about it being 1228 00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:04,400 invisible well now imagine that 1229 00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:05,599 it's another thing just hopped in the 1230 00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,800 back of the truck and it's just riding 1231 00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:08,319 along drinking your coldies 1232 00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:09,520 and it's just waiting for you to get 1233 00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:11,680 home and i think about it all the time 1234 00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,880 um you shouldn't like or 1235 00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:16,800 is it something trying to observe us you 1236 00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:18,400 know like and what's the movie signs 1237 00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,280 where they're 1238 00:42:22,390 --> 00:42:21,440 probing like maybe it's something just 1239 00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:22,400 trying to observe 1240 00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,079 our these are the underwater aliens 1241 00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:25,839 we've talked about coming up to keep an 1242 00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:26,400 eye on us 1243 00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,359 right to you know make a plan or i also 1244 00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:31,440 daydream like man if time travel was 1245 00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:32,880 available wouldn't it be really cool if 1246 00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,880 i could go back to like ancient egypt 1247 00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:36,640 but i could be like in a cloaked outfit 1248 00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:38,000 so they wouldn't see me 1249 00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:40,000 observing them but i just kind of like 1250 00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:41,760 to pee around and see what's going on 1251 00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:42,720 and be like 1252 00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:44,240 oh man the movies were way off that's 1253 00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:45,680 not what it looked like maybe these are 1254 00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:47,280 the people that are on one of those 1255 00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:49,440 go back to the past tours from the 1256 00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:51,040 future and they're not listening and 1257 00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,480 they're going like behind the velvet 1258 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,319 rope or they climbed over the wall 1259 00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:56,000 they were told not to go there they 1260 00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,200 climbed over the wall and that's how 1261 00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:59,040 they got here now 1262 00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:02,560 maybe well 1263 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,640 you know another subject i wanted to 1264 00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:06,560 throw at you guys 1265 00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:09,760 were these pale crawler humanoids or 1266 00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:12,000 whatever the hell these things are 1267 00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:15,599 people call them rakes flesh gates 1268 00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:18,560 crawlers you know they've all kinds of 1269 00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,440 names for them 1270 00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:21,599 even skin walkers some people even call 1271 00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:22,960 them wendigos 1272 00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:25,760 you know i don't think it's that but for 1273 00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:28,079 whatever reason 1274 00:43:33,430 --> 00:43:31,040 you know i i'm sure they've been around 1275 00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,440 but man are we getting reports over the 1276 00:43:38,309 --> 00:43:35,599 past two or three years 1277 00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,319 of these things it's it's crazy what are 1278 00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:40,319 your thoughts on these things 1279 00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:43,599 i don't know it's funny because 1280 00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,200 i get a kick out of the fact that how 1281 00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:47,680 terrified people are and i'm one of them 1282 00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:51,200 of us like some sort of emaciated 1283 00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:54,480 pale pasty thing anything that's fast or 1284 00:43:58,550 --> 00:43:56,400 slow we're not really afraid of it but 1285 00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,560 if it can move the same speed we move 1286 00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:00,560 we don't want no part of that thing and 1287 00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:02,720 with a humanoid figure 1288 00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:05,839 it feels like this is a very 1289 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:09,040 low level of 1290 00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,960 like worker drones 1291 00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,480 i think of them this way when there's 1292 00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:16,240 certain levels of these things 1293 00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:18,079 it's like you can send out worker ants 1294 00:44:20,790 --> 00:44:19,280 and they go out and collect things and 1295 00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,800 bring it back to the whole deal 1296 00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:22,079 it's like these things are just 1297 00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,079 collecting fear they're collecting 1298 00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:26,079 sorrow they're collecting 1299 00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:28,000 darkness that these are the things that 1300 00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:29,839 go out and harvest like they're more of 1301 00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:30,800 a harvester 1302 00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,560 and it's almost like they're punished 1303 00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,079 because of it that's the reason they 1304 00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:36,319 look the way they look 1305 00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:38,160 the whole idea of the rake or like you 1306 00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:39,200 even talk about when to go the 1307 00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:40,400 skinwalker 1308 00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:41,920 for me i don't feel like those are the 1309 00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:44,000 same things i always feel like there's 1310 00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:45,280 something separate or maybe it's just 1311 00:44:47,990 --> 00:44:46,240 because i want them 1312 00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:48,000 to be separate that's probably what it 1313 00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:49,680 is right but 1314 00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:53,200 with these crawlers i remember reading 1315 00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,640 the story of the fresno crawlers and 1316 00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:55,920 then i remember seeing the stories of 1317 00:44:58,069 --> 00:44:57,520 the rakes and then you get into all of 1318 00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:58,079 these 1319 00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:59,359 where you start finding them and like 1320 00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:01,200 you said probably over literally the 1321 00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:03,520 last 24 to 28 months 1322 00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:06,640 it seems like the the the crawler rake 1323 00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:07,680 siding has just 1324 00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,640 amped up to 11 like people and maybe 1325 00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:12,960 it's also because of the time 1326 00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:16,720 now last year there's a lot of 1327 00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:19,760 anxiety there's a lot of of bad will 1328 00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,000 there's a lot of disturbance 1329 00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:24,240 in our universe and maybe that's what 1330 00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:25,599 these things feed on 1331 00:45:29,349 --> 00:45:28,160 and that's what showing up now i've been 1332 00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:29,359 getting a lot of 1333 00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:31,359 sightings most of the settings have been 1334 00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:33,440 around people's homes 1335 00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:36,560 and um i do not want any part of that 1336 00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:39,040 well the thing is i i you know people 1337 00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:40,960 are being home now you know because the 1338 00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:44,480 lockdown stuff yeah and maybe they're 1339 00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:47,680 keeping eye out around them and they're 1340 00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:49,839 seeing it but yeah i'm getting a lot of 1341 00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:50,319 them 1342 00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:53,119 where they're around people's residences 1343 00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:54,000 so 1344 00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:55,200 looking through the windows can you 1345 00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:57,200 imagine staring at you 1346 00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,560 i don't even want to get in yeah that 1347 00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:00,880 sounds yeah yeah well i mean 1348 00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:04,160 i had one not long ago where uh these 1349 00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:08,160 these two people were out in um 1350 00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,319 in a shed their shed it was you know 1351 00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:12,000 like some father had an office out there 1352 00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:13,119 or something 1353 00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:15,440 and they heard something banging on the 1354 00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:17,839 wall on the door of this shed 1355 00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:19,760 they looked and it had security so they 1356 00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:21,760 looked up like you know the screen for 1357 00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:22,560 the camera 1358 00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:25,680 and this thing's standing outside you 1359 00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,400 know 1360 00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:28,160 they'd have been gun at my house yeah no 1361 00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:29,760 thanks yeah 1362 00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,359 yeah what now my uh in the chat 1363 00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:36,000 vincent talks about something i've been 1364 00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:37,280 reporting for 1365 00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:40,240 several years now is the penelope 1366 00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:43,680 humanoid that has been seen 1367 00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:46,240 oh my god up in the sierra nevada's now 1368 00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:47,920 for years 1369 00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:51,520 uh i i even i i even talked to several 1370 00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:52,880 uh 1371 00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:54,560 park rangers about this and they 1372 00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,000 confirmed people are seeing this 1373 00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:59,040 thing now how this penelope name got 1374 00:47:03,109 --> 00:47:00,800 stuck onto this thing i don't know what 1375 00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:03,119 it is but he verified that one of the 1376 00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:04,800 guys verified as well 1377 00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:06,720 that that's what they refer to it now as 1378 00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:08,160 penelope but i've had four 1379 00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,440 sightings of this crawler pale 1380 00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:14,400 humanoid from different sources where 1381 00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:16,160 people are out camping 1382 00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:18,319 especially in this area of the sierra 1383 00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:19,599 nevadas 1384 00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:24,319 and uh i have no idea what it is 1385 00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:25,760 i'm running through my head of what i 1386 00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:28,079 could possibly mistake 1387 00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:29,520 any animal that you could possibly 1388 00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:30,960 mistaken for something like that would 1389 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:32,559 have to have such a severe case of 1390 00:47:35,910 --> 00:47:35,440 mange and they would probably almost 1391 00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:35,920 have to 1392 00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:40,000 100 be albino in order for you to have 1393 00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:41,520 which is two things that would line up 1394 00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:43,200 that would be near impossible to have 1395 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:44,079 line up 1396 00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:45,760 in order for it to even give you because 1397 00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,359 you got to think about let's say 1398 00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:50,000 a completely hairless mule deer right 1399 00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:51,119 well then they're going to be you know 1400 00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:52,480 they're they're pinkish color they're 1401 00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:54,160 gonna be different under their hair 1402 00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,400 you take a black bear well their skin is 1403 00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:58,640 real dark and i mean it just 1404 00:48:01,670 --> 00:48:00,960 it wouldn't be light colored enough a 1405 00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:01,680 white tail 1406 00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,200 elk i mean any of these things that 1407 00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:05,040 might be out there would be hard 1408 00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:07,599 it would have to be a fully albino 1409 00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:08,720 pigmented 1410 00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:11,920 no melanin at all in its skin and be 1411 00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:13,680 completely hairless in order for you to 1412 00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,200 even make that mistake 1413 00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:17,520 so the odds of it being something that 1414 00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:18,720 we know 1415 00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,200 is probably slim and none so this 1416 00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,119 penelope thing 1417 00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:26,000 i don't what was it penelope is it is it 1418 00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:27,520 uh 1419 00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:29,119 snidely whiplash was it like one of the 1420 00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:31,440 canadian mountie cartoons way back in 1421 00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:32,559 the day when we were like 1422 00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:38,069 yeah i don't know how they got that name 1423 00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:39,119 but you know 1424 00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:42,400 um one thing i did think about 1425 00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:44,880 earlier on when i started getting these 1426 00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:46,960 studying reports was 1427 00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:50,880 the body of these things 1428 00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:53,359 even though you know even though the 1429 00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:56,000 other what i'm referring to was darker 1430 00:49:00,710 --> 00:48:58,319 the body of these things look very much 1431 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,720 like what these wing humanoids look like 1432 00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:03,520 out in chicago area now those were dark 1433 00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:04,960 in color 1434 00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:08,079 but we have had some of these humanoids 1435 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,000 that have been dark in color too 1436 00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:12,480 so is there a connection or is this 1437 00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,000 something that's 1438 00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,160 moving in and out of reality which i 1439 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:18,480 think this wing humanoid phenomena 1440 00:49:22,549 --> 00:49:19,200 really is 1441 00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:22,559 i think it's something unknown that's 1442 00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:23,520 coming 1443 00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:26,480 in from another reality and of course 1444 00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:27,680 we're 1445 00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:30,720 getting the reports out at uh 1446 00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:34,240 o'hara international that 1447 00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:37,359 seemed to suggest that 1448 00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:39,599 uh maybe these things are connected 1449 00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,920 extra extraterrestrial sightings and 1450 00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:43,440 such as well so 1451 00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:45,920 i don't know i don't know you know the 1452 00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,440 whole thing is weird to me 1453 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:49,920 i i just you know we've been looking 1454 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:52,800 into this thing now since 2011 1455 00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:55,760 and then when two it started in 2017 1456 00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:57,520 again 1457 00:50:02,069 --> 00:49:59,920 you know we've been looking at all kinds 1458 00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:02,079 of explanations and we still haven't 1459 00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:03,839 really come up with anything 1460 00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:07,520 but quite frankly the uh 1461 00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:10,480 the other coming from a alternate 1462 00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:11,280 reality 1463 00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,559 in my estimation is probably the closest 1464 00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:16,640 to what this thing is i mean just from 1465 00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:18,480 what you know people have described it 1466 00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:20,079 people have seen this thing a little bit 1467 00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:22,559 disappeared from them 1468 00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:25,599 yeah i agree i think it does i think 1469 00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:27,040 that ex 1470 00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,400 it feels fitting that that's where it 1471 00:50:32,470 --> 00:50:30,240 would come from i 100 1472 00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:32,480 agree it just doesn't feel like i said 1473 00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,760 it just doesn't feel like there's a 1474 00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,359 natural element 1475 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:37,280 to these things at all and again going 1476 00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,880 back into the talking about the 1477 00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,480 the flying humanoids these things could 1478 00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:42,720 easily be gathering up 1479 00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,960 stuff for it they could be worker bees 1480 00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:46,640 for the flying humanoids 1481 00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,640 they're just the ground dwellers the way 1482 00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:50,160 they do it because they're stories of 1483 00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:52,319 whether people think they've seen these 1484 00:50:55,670 --> 00:50:55,119 these crawlers uh in cave systems yeah 1485 00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:55,680 around 1486 00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,000 cave systems and which would make sense 1487 00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:59,760 if you kind of give what they look like 1488 00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:01,040 and all these things 1489 00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:02,960 but it would also make sense if this was 1490 00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:04,079 something that 1491 00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:06,000 maybe there is like a portal maybe there 1492 00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:07,359 is something that's down 1493 00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:09,520 in these systems which is again where it 1494 00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:11,359 allows them to pass back and forth 1495 00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:14,160 freely and you know that's whenever they 1496 00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:15,760 come out to with the flying humanoid 1497 00:51:18,630 --> 00:51:16,319 stuff 1498 00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:18,640 because it does almost seem or maybe 1499 00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:20,240 these ground these crawlers nothing more 1500 00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:21,680 than other flying humanoids they just 1501 00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,599 have to go through a metamorphosis 1502 00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:25,119 they start out like insects they're on 1503 00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:26,000 the ground then they got to 1504 00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,280 metamorphosize 1505 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:29,520 into the humanoids we don't know i think 1506 00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:30,880 we're doing all we can though 1507 00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,000 collect stories collect data try to 1508 00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:36,000 try to sort it out into if you can if 1509 00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:37,119 there's ways 1510 00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:39,440 and catalog that's the only thing we can 1511 00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,000 do at this point is catalog because 1512 00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:44,480 we don't have the the senses the ability 1513 00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:45,520 or the equipment to 1514 00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,319 capture and to know whether these 1515 00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:50,079 sightings are going to take place 1516 00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:52,240 beforehand i think a lot of people when 1517 00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:54,000 they write in they'll describe it as 1518 00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,680 looking like gollum 1519 00:51:59,829 --> 00:51:57,599 from lord of the rings and stuff like 1520 00:52:01,349 --> 00:51:59,839 that they don't really know what to 1521 00:52:03,349 --> 00:52:01,359 what to classify it they don't really 1522 00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,359 know what they what they've seen 1523 00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:05,680 i remember distinctly a guy in law 1524 00:52:10,549 --> 00:52:06,960 enforcement 1525 00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:10,559 um from the town of laredo saw 1526 00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:14,079 what he described now as a being a rake 1527 00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:15,440 but at the time of the sighting of 1528 00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:17,040 course he had no idea 1529 00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:18,400 what it was that he saw but he saw 1530 00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:20,240 something bizarre in the city 1531 00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:22,559 uh underneath like an overpass i gotta 1532 00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,160 tell you guys something 1533 00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:26,960 sure the radio is a strange town that's 1534 00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:27,440 what 1535 00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:29,680 is history in that town i had some of 1536 00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:31,520 the damn settings 1537 00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:36,079 i've had wing humanoids i've had 1538 00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:39,359 what pale humanoids crawlers 1539 00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:42,880 i've had flying manta rays 1540 00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:46,000 in laredo and a whole 1541 00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:49,520 load of other stuff i mean what is it 1542 00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,720 about israel you guys are 1543 00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,040 just what is it about laredo i don't go 1544 00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:55,599 there because of all the sightings 1545 00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:57,760 just in history i think that's it's just 1546 00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,800 one of those places 1547 00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:00,800 kind of like new orleans it's just one 1548 00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,319 of those places that has an 1549 00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:05,359 energy about it and maybe you know who 1550 00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:06,559 knows i mean there's so many of the 1551 00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:08,240 stories you get off into ley lines and 1552 00:53:10,950 --> 00:53:09,440 energy spots and 1553 00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:10,960 you start getting into also where there 1554 00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:13,200 could be thinner areas possibly 1555 00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:15,119 sedona arizona is known for thinner 1556 00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:17,359 areas seeing dinosaurs in the desert 1557 00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:20,079 things like that maybe that's along 1558 00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:22,000 those lines of where this stuff kind of 1559 00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,000 leaks its way out 1560 00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,240 well i'll tell you the air south of san 1561 00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:28,079 antonio down to 1562 00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:31,200 the border is probably the most 1563 00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:34,400 active and most diverse 1564 00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,440 region for cryptid activity i mean i've 1565 00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:39,839 had tiny dinosaurs seen 1566 00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:42,720 uh you know oh god's crazy oh yeah we've 1567 00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:43,520 had small 1568 00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:45,839 puck wedgies the tiny americans 1569 00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,040 thunderbirds 1570 00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:49,440 yeah we've had so many things sent to us 1571 00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:50,880 from that part 1572 00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:57,990 unpopulated like there are horse areas 1573 00:54:02,150 --> 00:53:58,800 but there are 1574 00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:02,160 massive we were talking about this a lot 1575 00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:03,520 and it's always been the joke and when 1576 00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:04,880 people move to texas they think about 1577 00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,400 texas about it being big 1578 00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:08,559 but people around here don't really get 1579 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:09,599 excited 1580 00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:12,880 over any purchase of land and unless 1581 00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:13,599 it's 1582 00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:16,319 talking about buying a ranch it needs to 1583 00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:17,680 be 10 000 acres 1584 00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:20,079 or more but you're talking 5 000 acres 1585 00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:21,040 anything under 5 1586 00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:23,440 000 acres it's kind of just like 1587 00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:25,200 somebody would have 1588 00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,720 and it's different in certain areas but 1589 00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:28,640 like i mean i was just in earlier this 1590 00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:29,040 year 1591 00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,119 out on a ranch in west texas out in the 1592 00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:32,800 davis mountains that was over ten 1593 00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:34,000 thousand acres 1594 00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:35,839 and i mean there's nothing out there but 1595 00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:37,920 literally davis mountains and you could 1596 00:54:43,910 --> 00:54:40,559 understand rough and rugged country 1597 00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:43,920 but it's so sparse like you could get up 1598 00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:44,880 there and look and 1599 00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:46,319 at night you can get up on top of those 1600 00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:47,760 little flat parts on the top of those 1601 00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:49,599 mountains and look and you may not see 1602 00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:51,599 houses in certain directions for the 1603 00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:52,880 longest time it's just 1604 00:54:58,789 --> 00:54:56,400 empty scary desert 1605 00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:58,799 that's another area i mean anywhere from 1606 00:55:02,230 --> 00:55:00,160 the new mexico line 1607 00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:02,240 over into the davis mountains i had a 1608 00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:03,599 report 1609 00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:09,680 who contacted me about 1610 00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,720 these small bigfoot like creatures 1611 00:55:17,030 --> 00:55:14,400 as they were up there fossil hunting in 1612 00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:17,040 the davis mountains near davis mountains 1613 00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:18,880 i don't know if you guys read it or not 1614 00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:24,390 hobbs new mexico another place what is 1615 00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:26,000 about hobbes new mexico 1616 00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:29,520 i get bigfoot sightings uh 1617 00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:32,079 humanoid sign everything from that place 1618 00:55:35,190 --> 00:55:33,599 you know it just seems like certain 1619 00:55:37,750 --> 00:55:35,200 places 1620 00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:37,760 have just weird stuff happens you know 1621 00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:39,599 it's not like one person's calling them 1622 00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:40,720 all in 1623 00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:43,200 i mean i'm getting them from everywhere 1624 00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:43,920 and 1625 00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:46,400 also carlsbad's not from far from any of 1626 00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:48,400 that so a giant yeah 1627 00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:50,559 so and we don't know you know who knows 1628 00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:51,680 what all these others 1629 00:55:55,030 --> 00:55:53,200 i mean there was caves on the ranch i 1630 00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:55,040 was on they weren't deep 1631 00:55:59,589 --> 00:55:57,440 dwelling but then but there are cave 1632 00:56:02,470 --> 00:55:59,599 systems up in there they may only be 1633 00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:02,480 you know 30 40 foot deep to 100 foot 1634 00:56:06,309 --> 00:56:04,240 deep not but there are systems out there 1635 00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:06,319 like that well then how many areas 1636 00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:08,240 through that entire place have we never 1637 00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:09,520 seen it's like that 1638 00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:12,880 so there's i don't know why we always 1639 00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:15,359 think and i say we is just an overall 1640 00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:16,400 term 1641 00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:19,520 that it has to be heavily wooded massive 1642 00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,240 mountains 1643 00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:22,000 lots of forest in order for things to 1644 00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:23,280 hide 1645 00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:24,559 whenever we don't take into 1646 00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,040 consideration rocky valleys and 1647 00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:29,200 cave systems so you kind of forget that 1648 00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:31,280 because we don't have a lot of that 1649 00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:32,160 around here 1650 00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:33,760 so that could entail with some of it 1651 00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:39,190 yeah it's bizarre i mean you know i i 1652 00:56:42,870 --> 00:56:41,040 you know i got to go back and take all 1653 00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:42,880 the creative stuff that i i've gotten in 1654 00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:44,720 texas and put it together 1655 00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:46,480 you know just just for the hell of it 1656 00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:48,240 because uh you're gonna be out of the 1657 00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:49,599 water 1658 00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:52,160 oh yeah i mean i know because that that 1659 00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:53,680 seems to be this 1660 00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:55,440 you know you've got states with a lot of 1661 00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:58,160 activity you know particular activity 1662 00:57:02,549 --> 00:57:01,280 but texas by far is probably one of the 1663 00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:02,559 top 1664 00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,240 three divided up it may not be so bad 1665 00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:08,000 but because texas is so big 1666 00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:11,280 we have such an array of areas yeah 1667 00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:13,040 yeah because we've done stories about 1668 00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:15,119 the texas coast and how haunted it is 1669 00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:17,200 all along that padre island national 1670 00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:18,160 shoreline 1671 00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:21,359 they have there's all kinds of unnerving 1672 00:57:24,870 --> 00:57:22,960 stories come from that stretch 1673 00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,880 down through that whole area and then we 1674 00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:26,400 start talking about going into the sam 1675 00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:27,760 houston national forest 1676 00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:30,000 you get over into the piney woods it's 1677 00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:30,799 just never 1678 00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:32,880 ending i get a lot of sightings from 1679 00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:35,040 like ohio and pennsylvania 1680 00:57:38,789 --> 00:57:37,119 yeah that's strange yeah i'm just kind 1681 00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:38,799 of used to that 1682 00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:41,920 i think something strange happens in 1683 00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:43,839 ohio that's got to be the way it is 1684 00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:45,440 i've been there the state's not that big 1685 00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:47,680 but as many crazy things as happens in 1686 00:57:50,630 --> 00:57:48,480 that place 1687 00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:50,640 i think y'all need to move out just give 1688 00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:51,680 it back to them 1689 00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:53,760 find another spot well you know the 1690 00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:55,839 thing about pennsylvania ohio and a lot 1691 00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:57,599 of people won't realize is 1692 00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:59,280 there's a lot of wilderness area in 1693 00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:00,720 those states 1694 00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:03,680 yeah that's a pennsylvania has a lot of 1695 00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:05,119 wilderness 1696 00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:08,240 uh a lot of 1697 00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:11,440 game areas a lot of forest and you know 1698 00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:12,640 state forest 1699 00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:15,920 national forest same way in ohio you get 1700 00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:16,559 down into 1701 00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:19,760 southeast ohio i mean 1702 00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:21,599 you're like living in the middle of west 1703 00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:23,280 virginia somewhere i mean 1704 00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,480 it's it's really thick in there uh some 1705 00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:28,799 strange stuff a lot of a lot of weird 1706 00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:29,760 stuff in there too 1707 00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:32,880 so yeah we uh 1708 00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,319 we're lucky enough here in pa to get a 1709 00:58:40,870 --> 00:58:38,880 to get a good variety of strange 1710 00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:40,880 settings you know 1711 00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,799 a wholesome abundance of strangeness is 1712 00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:44,400 always good in it 1713 00:58:48,309 --> 00:58:46,799 yeah yeah i mean something always going 1714 00:58:49,589 --> 00:58:48,319 to turn up around here you know the big 1715 00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:49,599 thing here 1716 00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:52,160 more recently has been the ufo activity 1717 00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:53,440 and it's been 1718 00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:56,400 heavy i don't know why it has been going 1719 00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:58,160 on the way it has the last year and a 1720 00:59:02,309 --> 00:58:58,559 half 1721 00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:02,319 but um especially triangle 1722 00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:05,520 triangle uh crafting a huge triangle 1723 00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:06,559 craft 1724 00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:09,599 i mean you know biggest football field 1725 00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:12,640 size you know it's uh yeah it seems 1726 00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:15,760 like ufo uh activity has been ramping up 1727 00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:18,160 worldwide it seems like everything i 1728 00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:18,799 mean even 1729 00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:21,200 has been picking up major news sources 1730 00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:22,480 are 1731 00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:24,720 re releasing it and it doesn't seem like 1732 00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:27,599 people are even affected by it 1733 00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:30,319 yeah that's another thing what are some 1734 00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:31,599 of the the 1735 00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:34,000 mainstream media going to start opening 1736 00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:36,160 up here in the united states with ufo 1737 00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:37,200 activity 1738 00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:39,520 and and stuff uh as compared to what 1739 00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:40,880 just like england but england's a 1740 00:59:46,230 --> 00:59:41,920 tabloid 1741 00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:46,240 news country but uh you know you know 1742 00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:47,280 you you would think 1743 00:59:50,789 --> 00:59:49,280 it would and it may actually start 1744 00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:50,799 opening up more 1745 00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:53,599 uh you know this whole so-called 1746 00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:55,440 disclosure by the government 1747 01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:58,559 thing you know with the tic tac ufos you 1748 01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:00,240 know that i think we're just being like 1749 01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:02,160 i said it before many times we're being 1750 01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:03,280 spoon-fed 1751 01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:06,400 now why that is i don't know why 1752 01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:09,119 but uh you know if it comes to alien or 1753 01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,720 early some type of life-form 1754 01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:12,319 they're not going to see a damn thing 1755 01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:14,000 until they have to 1756 01:00:18,150 --> 01:00:15,599 yeah you know i mean when the thing 1757 01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:18,160 lands in the middle in the middle of the 1758 01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:20,160 the rose garden that they're gonna say 1759 01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:22,000 something but until then 1760 01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,680 i don't think we're gonna get much out 1761 01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,280 of them about that 1762 01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:27,119 i think we've been so desensitized to 1763 01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:29,200 the whole idea of aliens that that's 1764 01:00:32,230 --> 01:00:31,520 it's never going to be big news again 1765 01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:32,240 until it does 1766 01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:35,040 exactly what you said until it slaps us 1767 01:00:37,270 --> 01:00:36,640 in the face that it doesn't matter what 1768 01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,280 they 1769 01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:39,280 human beings are bad that way we know 1770 01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:41,760 there's forest fires we know there's 1771 01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:43,119 floods we know there's 1772 01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:45,200 all this yet we still choose to just 1773 01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:46,799 live in those areas we're like yep we're 1774 01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:48,000 going for it you know 1775 01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,359 and i think that's the way it is with 1776 01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:52,000 this whole alien thing is i don't think 1777 01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:54,240 anybody cares until it's outside their 1778 01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:55,040 door 1779 01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:57,680 i think we've been beat over the head 1780 01:01:01,270 --> 01:00:58,160 with it 1781 01:01:03,430 --> 01:01:01,280 so much that it's kind of which may 1782 01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:03,440 actually have been the plan all along 1783 01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:05,440 right is to just force it on them till 1784 01:01:07,349 --> 01:01:06,640 you're burned out and you don't care 1785 01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:07,359 anymore 1786 01:01:11,670 --> 01:01:09,680 and anytime the word the letters ufo 1787 01:01:13,030 --> 01:01:11,680 come up you just shut off 1788 01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:13,040 and it's so much easier because that's 1789 01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:14,880 what we've talked about on the show is i 1790 01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:16,480 said how come it is not 1791 01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:19,040 more news and it drives us nuts that 1792 01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:21,520 aliens are living in our ocean 1793 01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:23,599 and nobody says anything about it that's 1794 01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:25,119 not in the news every day there's not 1795 01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:26,559 people out there watching it 1796 01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:27,920 there's not things going on we're doing 1797 01:01:30,549 --> 01:01:29,680 documentaries all this stuff and nobody 1798 01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:30,559 cares 1799 01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:31,920 that they can't answer what's flying 1800 01:01:35,750 --> 01:01:34,240 around out there 1801 01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:35,760 and i just think it's because we're just 1802 01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:37,359 totally desensitized 1803 01:01:40,390 --> 01:01:38,640 i think that's the reason like with the 1804 01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,400 glimmer man sightings and 1805 01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:42,000 all of these other settings the mothman 1806 01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:43,680 and all these flying humanoid sightings 1807 01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:44,160 is it's 1808 01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:46,720 new right it's other things happening 1809 01:01:48,950 --> 01:01:47,280 which 1810 01:01:50,309 --> 01:01:48,960 that leads me down a whole nother path 1811 01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:50,319 of yeah 1812 01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:54,000 so you know ever since this 1813 01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:56,000 this coveted thing and you know it's 1814 01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:57,920 having a pandemic i think people are 1815 01:02:01,910 --> 01:02:00,400 realizing more and more now that you 1816 01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:01,920 know things can happen 1817 01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:04,319 you know yeah oh yeah yeah way more 1818 01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:06,559 sensitive 1819 01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:08,720 than we realized yeah yeah yeah i i 1820 01:02:12,309 --> 01:02:10,160 think more people are starting to 1821 01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:12,319 realize uh yeah we've been pretty lucky 1822 01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:13,920 here in the united states for a long 1823 01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:15,200 long time 1824 01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:18,400 but you know in 2020 we had you know 1825 01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:21,680 covert then in the first month of 1826 01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:25,280 2021 we had an attack on the capital and 1827 01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:26,960 all that other stuff we never even 1828 01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:28,079 thought would ever even 1829 01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:30,799 happen would never crash any reason 30 1830 01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:32,319 years ago yeah no 1831 01:02:38,150 --> 01:02:36,000 yeah but you know it's right you know 1832 01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:38,160 but it's wild i get freaked out by all 1833 01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:39,440 the near earth objects that they're 1834 01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:40,960 constantly spotting because all it takes 1835 01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:42,559 is one of those to hit 1836 01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:44,720 and i mean everything we have is digital 1837 01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:46,799 it's put i mean we rewind 1838 01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:56,309 all the grocery stores were barren like 1839 01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:58,319 and how quickly that happens well that's 1840 01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:00,400 why i hope this infrastructure thing 1841 01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:02,000 finally gets passed and they're putting 1842 01:03:05,670 --> 01:03:03,200 some money into it 1843 01:03:06,549 --> 01:03:05,680 everything you know i mean we need a lot 1844 01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:06,559 of upgrade 1845 01:03:10,150 --> 01:03:07,920 for a lot of different things hell you 1846 01:03:11,510 --> 01:03:10,160 guys that's why we missed it yeah we 1847 01:03:14,829 --> 01:03:11,520 missed the first one with you because we 1848 01:03:18,390 --> 01:03:16,710 yeah that's right i mean you would have 1849 01:03:21,029 --> 01:03:18,400 thought texas was shut down 1850 01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:21,039 because of a snowstorm right it's always 1851 01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:22,960 i was snow skiing with my family in 1852 01:03:26,309 --> 01:03:24,720 colorado and it was colder in 1853 01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:26,319 weatherford texas than it was where we 1854 01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:27,760 were in the mountains 1855 01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:29,680 it was bad i was like what in the 1856 01:03:33,029 --> 01:03:31,039 world's going on 1857 01:03:35,029 --> 01:03:33,039 yeah i had gone up there the week before 1858 01:03:37,510 --> 01:03:35,039 the the winter thing hit 1859 01:03:40,069 --> 01:03:37,520 and on the the day i'm coming home i 1860 01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:40,079 pass him and his family going up there 1861 01:03:43,270 --> 01:03:41,520 so they were telling me how awesome it 1862 01:03:44,069 --> 01:03:43,280 had been at home and and it had been 1863 01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:44,079 nice up there 1864 01:03:47,910 --> 01:03:45,520 and colorado had been sunny and there'd 1865 01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:47,920 been no snow and i get home and two days 1866 01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:49,280 later that thing hits and i'm calling 1867 01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:50,400 him i'm like dude 1868 01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:52,880 this is not awesome down here man i'm 1869 01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:53,920 like this is bad 1870 01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:56,160 i get up one morning it's 15 below zero 1871 01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:57,440 of course with the windchill 1872 01:04:01,190 --> 01:03:59,119 but it was zero and i'm like that's 1873 01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:01,200 never happened at my house 1874 01:04:05,829 --> 01:04:04,400 ever yeah and then texas just went well 1875 01:04:09,029 --> 01:04:05,839 we can't handle that and turn the power 1876 01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:12,390 yeah yeah it was pretty unbelievable 1877 01:04:16,230 --> 01:04:14,400 all right guys i'll tell you i i really 1878 01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:16,240 appreciate you coming on tonight 1879 01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:18,079 thanks for having me yeah man we're 1880 01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:19,760 gonna have to get together more often 1881 01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:24,319 yeah of course yeah for sure 1882 01:04:29,190 --> 01:04:27,200 open invitation to come on anytime i 1883 01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:29,200 mean there's plenty for us to talk about 1884 01:04:34,150 --> 01:04:32,000 quite well true so tell everybody about 1885 01:04:34,870 --> 01:04:34,160 the podcast again how to get on there 1886 01:04:37,829 --> 01:04:34,880 and when they're going 1887 01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:37,839 they can listen to it sure you can uh 1888 01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:38,480 follow us 1889 01:04:41,589 --> 01:04:40,160 on pretty much every platform where 1890 01:04:42,470 --> 01:04:41,599 podcasts are released the name of the 1891 01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:42,480 podcast 1892 01:04:46,270 --> 01:04:44,880 of course is expanded perspectives you 1893 01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:46,280 can go to the website 1894 01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:47,599 expandedperspectives.com 1895 01:04:50,950 --> 01:04:49,200 if you have any cool stories you want to 1896 01:04:51,910 --> 01:04:50,960 share with us and perhaps you might hear 1897 01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:51,920 it right on the air 1898 01:04:55,589 --> 01:04:53,520 you can email the show expanded 1899 01:04:57,510 --> 01:04:55,599 perspectives at yahoo.com 1900 01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:57,520 we have a hotline you can call the the 1901 01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:59,599 number and leave your story if you don't 1902 01:05:05,670 --> 01:05:01,200 feel like emailing it out 1903 01:05:08,309 --> 01:05:05,680 that number is 888-393-2783 1904 01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:08,319 or 888 393 broad yes that's right i 1905 01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:09,119 remember the number 1906 01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:11,440 wow i always forget the phone number and 1907 01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:13,039 you can follow us on social media 1908 01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:14,640 and of course you can follow us on 1909 01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:16,880 youtube um we have 1910 01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:18,720 the regular show that comes out just 1911 01:05:20,789 --> 01:05:20,480 expanded perspectives and we also have 1912 01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:20,799 an 1913 01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:23,520 elite episode which that's for members 1914 01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:24,960 only you have to sign up 1915 01:05:28,150 --> 01:05:27,119 it's like five dollars a month and 1916 01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:28,160 you'll get extra 1917 01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:30,160 content every month including our whole 1918 01:05:34,710 --> 01:05:33,440 back catalog which right now is like 235 1919 01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:34,720 episodes 1920 01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:36,720 each one of those is about an hour long 1921 01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:38,240 that can get all access to all that for 1922 01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:39,280 five bucks 1923 01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:40,960 we also do additional shows that are 1924 01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:42,640 only on youtube for now but they will be 1925 01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:44,480 coming over to the podcast soon 1926 01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:46,799 like cameron's cryptid classroom we're 1927 01:05:50,789 --> 01:05:48,240 about to relaunch an epi 1928 01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:50,799 a new show called unusual encounters 1929 01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:52,720 which we kind of did one episode like 1930 01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:53,760 four years ago 1931 01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:55,760 yeah we're gonna be picking that back up 1932 01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:57,359 and then we're about to start 1933 01:06:00,789 --> 01:05:59,760 expanding perspectives classic rewind so 1934 01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:00,799 thanks kenny 1935 01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:03,599 right that's where you can find us man 1936 01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:03,920 that's 1937 01:06:09,990 --> 01:06:07,839 it well i great you know you 1938 01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:10,000 like i said again anytime you guys want 1939 01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:10,960 to come on 1940 01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:12,400 you think of something you want to talk 1941 01:06:18,069 --> 01:06:15,680 about you just let me know 1942 01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:18,079 bull ranger like you busy than that yeah 1943 01:06:20,630 --> 01:06:19,359 and the same goes for you i mean we 1944 01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:20,640 haven't had you on in years maybe we 1945 01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:21,760 need to schedule the time to have you 1946 01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:26,630 just let me know the crawlers and you 1947 01:06:29,270 --> 01:06:28,559 know we like when i get an interesting 1948 01:06:30,789 --> 01:06:29,280 story 1949 01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:30,799 sent to me that's like the glimmer man 1950 01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:32,000 or something i know i mean i try to 1951 01:06:34,789 --> 01:06:32,720 forward those 1952 01:06:36,069 --> 01:06:34,799 directly to you i know you do the same 1953 01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:36,079 to us and uh we 1954 01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:37,680 we we collaborate with a lot of other 1955 01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:39,680 podcasts that do the same thing 1956 01:06:42,549 --> 01:06:41,119 because they might get a sighting of the 1957 01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:42,559 glimmer so i've talked to several other 1958 01:06:46,390 --> 01:06:44,720 podcasters but you get a sighting 1959 01:06:47,750 --> 01:06:46,400 send it over to me and we do the same to 1960 01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:47,760 them i mean 1961 01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:50,640 we like big podcasting youtube family we 1962 01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:52,160 don't look at people as like competitors 1963 01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:53,760 no competition i think there's room for 1964 01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:54,960 all of us 1965 01:07:00,630 --> 01:06:58,079 and it's it's a lot of fun yeah you know 1966 01:07:02,870 --> 01:07:00,640 usually when you get two podcasts 1967 01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:02,880 together and do a show it turns out to 1968 01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:04,079 be a pretty good show 1969 01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:07,039 yeah yeah yeah because you know we all 1970 01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:08,880 hear a lot of different things and 1971 01:07:14,069 --> 01:07:12,160 yeah so okay guys well thanks again 1972 01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:14,079 and we'll be talking soon you take care 1973 01:07:19,589 --> 01:07:15,680 all right thanks a lot thank you 1974 01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:19,599 everybody now if you have an unexplained 1975 01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:20,240 encounter 1976 01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:21,839 sighting feel free to contact me through 1977 01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:24,079 the pharms of monsters blog site 1978 01:07:29,430 --> 01:07:26,880 i want to again thank kyle filson and 1979 01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:29,440 cam hale for joining me this evening 1980 01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:31,520 and thanks to each and all of you for 1981 01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:33,039 watching and chatting 1982 01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:36,240 if you made a super chat donation it is 1983 01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:38,319 truly appreciated we thank you 1984 01:07:41,510 --> 01:07:40,480 and your support is what makes this 1985 01:07:44,789 --> 01:07:41,520 possible 1986 01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:44,799 please please like it subscribe 1987 01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:47,760 and share so until next week stay 1988 01:07:54,829 --> 01:07:48,640 healthy 1989 01:07:54,839 --> 01:08:00,120 night 1990 01:08:00,130 --> 01:08:08,829 [Music] 1991 01:08:08,839 --> 01:08:12,760 so 1992 01:08:12,770 --> 01:08:37,830 [Applause]